Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

04/03/2014 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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08:06:25 AM Start
08:06:28 AM SCR17
08:27:21 AM Adjourn
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+ SCR 17 150TH ANNIVERSARY OF ALASKA PURCHASE TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
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          SCR 17-150TH ANNIVERSARY OF ALASKA PURCHASE                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:06:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN announced  that the only order of  business was SENATE                                                               
CONCURRENT   RESOLUTION   NO.   17,   Commemorating   the   150th                                                               
anniversary  of the  purchase of  Alaska  for $7,200,000;  urging                                                               
Alaska  communities to  plan  activities and  events  in 2017  to                                                               
commemorate  the  Alaska  Purchase; requesting  that  the  Alaska                                                               
Historical  Commission  coordinate  events; and  inviting  Alaska                                                               
communities,    schools,   universities,    libraries,   museums,                                                               
businesses, civic and historical  groups, and government agencies                                                               
to  participate  in  and  support  commemorative  activities  and                                                               
events.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:06:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIN  HANSON,   Staff,  Senator   Lesil  McGuire,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented SCR  17  on behalf  of  the Senate  Rules                                                               
Standing Committee,  sponsor, on which Senator  McGuire is chair.                                                               
She stated  that the one-hundred-and-fiftieth anniversary  of the                                                               
United  States' purchase  of Alaska  from  Russia in  1867 is  an                                                               
ideal opportunity for Alaskans to  celebrate the state's history.                                                               
She  said  the  proposed   legislation  recognizes  the  historic                                                               
significance of  the anniversary  of the purchase  and encourages                                                               
all  Alaskan   communities  to  plan  events   to  celebrate  the                                                               
anniversary.   Further, it asks the  Alaska Historical Commission                                                               
(ANC) to "lead in planning  these events" and "seek opportunities                                                               
to engage support and coordinate  events through our communities,                                                               
schools, universities, libraries,  museums, businesses, civic and                                                               
historical groups,  and government  agencies."  She  said passing                                                               
SCR  17 now  would provide  communities with  ample time  to plan                                                               
such events.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:08:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON  noted   that  the   sponsor  statement                                                               
reflects that Alaska was purchased for $7.2 million.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN asked  if  anyone  knew how  much  that  would be  in                                                               
today's dollars.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON said, "A lot of money."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN remarked, "But still a bargain."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:09:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  relayed that he  was born 90  years from                                                               
the day  of the Alaska purchase,  and he traveled to  Alaska as a                                                               
Russian interpreter.   He  asked what  the sponsor  envisioned in                                                               
terms of celebrations throughout the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:10:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSON replied  that currently, Sitka holds a  big parade and                                                               
a ball on Alaska Day.  She  said she thinks the day would provide                                                               
a good opportunity  for "parades and events and  fairs and things                                                               
like  that."   She said  more than  anything, there  would be  an                                                               
educational  opportunity for  libraries to  put together  events,                                                               
schools to take  an extra step in speaking  about Alaska history,                                                               
and museums to put together exhibits.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:11:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTIS reminisced  about attending celebrations in                                                               
Anchorage with  her family in 1967,  when she was a  child living                                                               
in the  Interior.   She likened  the events  as being  similar to                                                               
today's Fur Rendezvous.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:13:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  remarked that  the state observes  Seward's Day.   He                                                               
opined, "It's a  shame ... there's not some  kind of coordination                                                               
between the  two.  It  cannot happen, I understand,  because it's                                                               
two totally different dates.  But he purchased it."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:13:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  indicated that  a place  for celebration                                                               
was   created  in   Fairbanks,  originally   called  [Alaska   67                                                               
Centennial Exposition],  then Alaskaland, then Pioneer  Park.  He                                                               
suggested that other communities  could create monuments, such as                                                               
parks, that would  enable communities to gather  and celebrate on                                                               
a  regular  basis  life in  Alaska,  while  remembering  Alaska's                                                               
pioneers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN suggested a commemorative coin could be made.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:14:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  opined that two  cents an acre was  a good                                                               
deal.   She related  having seen a  map of the  Lower 48  with an                                                               
overlay of a map  of Alaska, with a comment that  in 1867, at the                                                               
time  of   acquisition,  the  purchase  of   Alaska  was  called,                                                               
"Seward's  Folly."   She said  the  map was  provided by  "Travel                                                               
Juneau," which  called [the  purchase of  Alaska] "the  best deal                                                               
ever."   She  expressed appreciation  to the  bill sponsor.   She                                                               
related  her   understanding  that   there  have   been  national                                                               
discussions  about whether  it was  a good  deal, and  she opined                                                               
that it is up to Alaska to let  the rest of the nation know that,                                                               
indeed, it was.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:15:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  PROPES,  Chief  of  Staff,   Office  of  the  Lieutenant                                                               
Governor, testified  that under statute, the  lieutenant governor                                                               
serves on the Alaska Historical  Commission, and she is his staff                                                               
designee.   She said she has  been working on event  planning for                                                               
the  one-hundred-and-fiftieth anniversary  for almost  two years.                                                               
She  relayed  that during  the  centennial  year, there  were  46                                                               
projects, and  the federal government gave  money because "Alaska                                                               
had  no  economic base"  and  was  trying  to  create one.    She                                                               
explained, "That  was before oil."   Currently there  are capital                                                               
projects, many  of which will be  "timed around this."   She said                                                               
she has coordinated with the Seward  House, in Auburn, New York -                                                               
a  museum where  William Seward  once  lived -  to have  original                                                               
artifacts sent,  including the  original of  the painting  on the                                                               
wall of  the committee room.   She said the  goal was to  have an                                                               
exhibit  at the  opening  of the  State  Library Archives  Museum                                                               
(SLAM)  [currently under  construction], as  well as  a traveling                                                               
exhibit to museums that have  the right staff and are temperature                                                               
controlled.  The celebration would  last a year, and Seward's Day                                                               
would be a part of it.  The  exhibit would end up in Sitka, which                                                               
would host the main celebration.   Ms. Propes said the Lieutenant                                                               
Governor's office  has also reached  out to the City  of Seattle,                                                               
because "Washington  state would not be  developed without this."                                                               
She noted  there is  a William  H. Seward park  in Seattle.   She                                                               
said the office  is also reaching out to  the Native communities,                                                               
acknowledging that "that's an important  part of the discussion."                                                               
She encouraged discussion around the  state.  She said the office                                                               
is working on a statute of  Seward that would be erected near the                                                               
Dimond Court House.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:18:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PROPES, in response to  Chair Lynn, offered her understanding                                                               
that currently the only bust of  Seward exists in Anchorage.  She                                                               
said the Office of the  Lieutenant Governor has been working with                                                               
the Seward  Family to have them  attend events.  She  said people                                                               
in Sitka  are considering a  coffee table  book.  She  said there                                                               
was  a memorandum  of understanding  (MOU) that  was part  of the                                                               
museum  project, so  there would  be books  and mementos  for the                                                               
archives.  She  relayed she has worked with people  in Haines and                                                               
Seward,  and she  said  there  would be  events  statewide.   Ms.                                                               
Propes  said  there  will  be academic  discussion,  as  well  as                                                               
celebration; therefore,  it will  be a  commemoration.   She said                                                               
the office is looking at the  possibility of having a coin, which                                                               
would help  to raise money  for the  events.  She  indicated that                                                               
fundraising is  another reason why  it is important to  begin the                                                               
process soon,  because it can take  a couple of years.   She said                                                               
the  planning list  is long,  but  there is  hope that  a lot  of                                                               
national attention will  be drawn, in order to  have a discussion                                                               
about Alaska and its worth.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PROPES  indicated that originally  [the worth of  Alaska] was                                                               
described as "a  sucked orange" in some newspaper  articles.  She                                                               
echoed Seward's  Folly was another  term related to  the purchase                                                               
of  Alaska.   She  talked about  reaching out  to  work with  the                                                               
Canadians,  and she  noted  that when  Senator  Dennis Eagan  had                                                               
headed the  centennial commission,  one of  the questions  he had                                                               
asked  was what  it  would have  been like  if  Alaska had  never                                                               
become part  of the U.S.   She said the Office  of the Lieutenant                                                               
Governor  wants to  challenge people  to have  the discussion  as                                                               
well.    Ms. Propes  emphasized  the  importance of  having  [the                                                               
proposed joint  resolution] in hand when  approaching the federal                                                               
government, not  only as authorization,  but to show  the support                                                               
of the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:20:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  ventured that  the border  between Canada  and Alaska                                                               
must follow a longitude line, and  he asked if the current border                                                               
is the original one.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PROPES offered  her understanding  that it  is the  original                                                               
border, but  proffered that its  designation had more to  do with                                                               
fur trade.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN asked  where most  of  the Seward  family is  located                                                               
today.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PROPES  answered  Auburn,  New  York.    In  response  to  a                                                               
question, she confirmed that there  are a quite a few descendants                                                               
still in Auburn.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:21:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  said the Russian  Orthodox Church is a  more integral                                                               
part of the  state's history than any other church,  and he asked                                                               
if the church would be part of the celebration.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PROPES said right now  the emphasis is on getting communities                                                               
"to  drive what's  going to  happen in  their particular  areas."                                                               
Notwithstanding that, she mentioned a  person named, Anna, who is                                                               
the  "bell  ringer"   in  Sitka  who  would  like   to  see  some                                                               
restoration  of the  Russian  Orthodox  churches; however,  "most                                                               
federal grants  won't allow  you to  spend money  on that."   She                                                               
said the Alaska Historical Commission  has "sort of moved some of                                                               
the grants that we have  to address anniversaries, and that would                                                               
allow some funding to help  with churches, because churches would                                                               
be allowed to be part of this."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  recommended Ms. Propes  contact the hierarchy  of the                                                               
Russia Orthodox  Church to inquire  about its plans,  because "it                                                               
very much affects them."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PROPES  responded that the intention  is to reach out  to the                                                               
church after  establishing the authority [through  the passage of                                                               
SCR 17].                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:23:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  recommended that Ms. Propes  contact the                                                               
State Department, which he said  has given money overseas for the                                                               
restoration of mosques.  He  opined, "So, if the State Department                                                               
can do that overseas on  religious buildings, certainly we can do                                                               
that  in recognition  of  our own  people here."    He asked  for                                                               
details related  to the large painting  on the wall of  the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee room,  to which Ms.  Propes had                                                               
previously referred.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:24:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PROPES said  the painting  depicts  "the original  signing."                                                               
She continued:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     It was  quite an  ordeal getting  Congress to  pass it,                                                                    
     and then they didn't pay  for it, which was on Seward's                                                                    
     Day ...  when it  passed.  ...  They finally  signed in                                                                    
     the middle  of the night,  because I think that  he was                                                                    
     nervous when they  finally had the agreement.   And so,                                                                    
     this  symbolizes the  actual  signing  of the  document                                                                    
     that transferred.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:25:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON indicated he  had just been informed that                                                               
there was  information about  the painting just  below it  on the                                                               
wall.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:26:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PROPES, in  response  to Chair  Lynn,  reiterated that  this                                                               
painting in the room was a  copy of the original, which the board                                                               
had arranged to borrow for [2017].                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:26:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN, after ascertaining that there was no one else who                                                                   
wished to testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:26:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  moved to  report SCR  17 out  of committee                                                               
with individual recommendations and  the accompanying zero fiscal                                                               
note.   There being no objection,  SCR 17 moved out  of the House                                                               
State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                               

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
01 SCR17 - Legislation - Version 28-LS1452N.pdf HSTA 4/3/2014 8:00:00 AM
SCR 17
02 SCR17 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 4/3/2014 8:00:00 AM
SCR 17
03 SCR17 - Fiscal Note.pdf HSTA 4/3/2014 8:00:00 AM
SCR 17